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		<title>By: 乳膠床墊</title>
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		<dc:creator>乳膠床墊</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You certainly deserve a round of applause for your post and more specifically, your blog in general. Very high quality material.</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 11:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the vid does not work anymore :(</description>
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		<title>By: Big Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK...I&#039;ve listened to your video... It REALLY is sour grapes from start to scratch.

I&#039;ll deconstruct all your points...

1)  When they wake up they look different. That&#039;s true for EVERYBODY! haha But REALLY hot girls look REALLY hot in the morning. Even MORE so. Yeah, girls like that actually exist, dude. They&#039;re tall &amp; beautiful and nothing will stop that but age.

2) That some girls call themselves models and are not, is COMPLETELY irrelevant. We&#039;re talking about HOT girls, not wannabee models. Even including such a besides-the-point arguement causes one to pause wrt your motive.

3) It is true that in general there&#039;s a sense of entitlement &amp; a history of pampering. Like I said, they live in a different galaxy. You just have to figure out a way to win her over DESPITE that.

4) That sororority girl is not even an EIGHT. Nose job for starters. And you called her an hb10?? Hmmm...

5) Miss S Carolina is prob the best example of what you MIGHT wind up with. A TRUE hottie that is truly unintelligent and seems UTTERLY clueless how she comes across.

But if you go to any  Top 25 college campus - Umich, The Ivy&#039;s, Stanford, some private ones, you will find TONS of SPECTACULARLY tall thin beautiful girls that worked VERY hard to get there and are probably smarter than you. haha

Bottom Line: No matter how you disguise it, this is just SOUR GRAPES, dude.

You can get these girls, but not using the nonesense the so-called PUA&#039;s use. In fact, as low IQ as Miss SCarolina appears, I guarantee you she&#039;s got enough intuitive wisdom from her dealings w/men to not buy ANY of the so-called PUA&#039;s &#039;game.&#039;

And having gotten really nicetall thin beautiful girls who worked full time &amp; went to college full time, they can be very family oriented and down-to-earth despite the VERY difficult mountain you must climb to win them over.

And the fact that almost everybody looks 4 or 5 times when you walk into a room w/her as your girl IS kind of cool. Ultimately, it&#039;s cheap thrills, but don&#039;t knock it until you tried it.

As usualy the so-called PUA&#039;s have it  exactly backwards. It&#039;s not gaming fatties that help build your confidence to get 10&#039;s. It&#039;s successfully gaming 10&#039;s that will ESTABLISH YOUR CONFIDENCE w/ ALL girls for the REST OF YOUR LIFE!

Whooooooooooo!!!

Big Daddy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230;I&#8217;ve listened to your video&#8230; It REALLY is sour grapes from start to scratch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll deconstruct all your points&#8230;</p>
<p>1)  When they wake up they look different. That&#8217;s true for EVERYBODY! haha But REALLY hot girls look REALLY hot in the morning. Even MORE so. Yeah, girls like that actually exist, dude. They&#8217;re tall &amp; beautiful and nothing will stop that but age.</p>
<p>2) That some girls call themselves models and are not, is COMPLETELY irrelevant. We&#8217;re talking about HOT girls, not wannabee models. Even including such a besides-the-point arguement causes one to pause wrt your motive.</p>
<p>3) It is true that in general there&#8217;s a sense of entitlement &amp; a history of pampering. Like I said, they live in a different galaxy. You just have to figure out a way to win her over DESPITE that.</p>
<p>4) That sororority girl is not even an EIGHT. Nose job for starters. And you called her an hb10?? Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>5) Miss S Carolina is prob the best example of what you MIGHT wind up with. A TRUE hottie that is truly unintelligent and seems UTTERLY clueless how she comes across.</p>
<p>But if you go to any  Top 25 college campus &#8211; Umich, The Ivy&#8217;s, Stanford, some private ones, you will find TONS of SPECTACULARLY tall thin beautiful girls that worked VERY hard to get there and are probably smarter than you. haha</p>
<p>Bottom Line: No matter how you disguise it, this is just SOUR GRAPES, dude.</p>
<p>You can get these girls, but not using the nonesense the so-called PUA&#8217;s use. In fact, as low IQ as Miss SCarolina appears, I guarantee you she&#8217;s got enough intuitive wisdom from her dealings w/men to not buy ANY of the so-called PUA&#8217;s &#8216;game.&#8217;</p>
<p>And having gotten really nicetall thin beautiful girls who worked full time &amp; went to college full time, they can be very family oriented and down-to-earth despite the VERY difficult mountain you must climb to win them over.</p>
<p>And the fact that almost everybody looks 4 or 5 times when you walk into a room w/her as your girl IS kind of cool. Ultimately, it&#8217;s cheap thrills, but don&#8217;t knock it until you tried it.</p>
<p>As usualy the so-called PUA&#8217;s have it  exactly backwards. It&#8217;s not gaming fatties that help build your confidence to get 10&#8217;s. It&#8217;s successfully gaming 10&#8217;s that will ESTABLISH YOUR CONFIDENCE w/ ALL girls for the REST OF YOUR LIFE!</p>
<p>Whooooooooooo!!!</p>
<p>Big Daddy</p>
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		<title>By: Big Daddy</title>
		<link>http://www.entropypua.com/blog/pua-myths-the-truth-about-hb10s/comment-page-1#comment-791</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who knows a little bit about this topic, I will point out  for you the MOST accurate thing anyone has commented so far - 

&quot;These women just seem to be on a different planet...&quot;&quot;

 The so-called PUA&#039;s who don&#039;t recognize that reveal they have no idea what they&#039;re talking about.

So-called PUA&#039;s sometimes say it&#039;s just as easy to game a 10 as a 7.

That&#039;s a false 1/2 truth. It&#039;s often just as easy to APPROACH a 10 as a 7. And sometimes the 10 is MORE approachable &amp; friendly. But GETTING w/them is a WHOLE other story.

So-called PUA&#039;s sometimes say  that if you game a fat chick it&#039;ll help your confidence w/10&#039;s down the way . That&#039;s a false 1/200th truth. haha It always helps to boost your confidence, but when it comes to girls of a different galaxy, your game has to have some substance.

Most of the stuff you&#039;re fed is intended to SELL you so-called PUA material.  That&#039;s why there&#039;s the disconnect from reality.

BigDaddy777</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who knows a little bit about this topic, I will point out  for you the MOST accurate thing anyone has commented so far &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;These women just seem to be on a different planet&#8230;&#8221;"</p>
<p> The so-called PUA&#8217;s who don&#8217;t recognize that reveal they have no idea what they&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>So-called PUA&#8217;s sometimes say it&#8217;s just as easy to game a 10 as a 7.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a false 1/2 truth. It&#8217;s often just as easy to APPROACH a 10 as a 7. And sometimes the 10 is MORE approachable &amp; friendly. But GETTING w/them is a WHOLE other story.</p>
<p>So-called PUA&#8217;s sometimes say  that if you game a fat chick it&#8217;ll help your confidence w/10&#8217;s down the way . That&#8217;s a false 1/200th truth. haha It always helps to boost your confidence, but when it comes to girls of a different galaxy, your game has to have some substance.</p>
<p>Most of the stuff you&#8217;re fed is intended to SELL you so-called PUA material.  That&#8217;s why there&#8217;s the disconnect from reality.</p>
<p>BigDaddy777</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah. Welcome to the PUA community. You hit the nail on the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah. Welcome to the PUA community. You hit the nail on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: Oribi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oribi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying :). I guess that&#039;s kind of what gets me confused. Just because a girl calls herself a model doesn&#039;t make her one, yet men play into that label whether it be for self-validation or bragging rights with their friends or to be able to say &quot;I date models&quot; in their sales pitch for their new PU eBook. I&#039;m not putting down amateur or hobbyist models, heck I am one. I just don&#039;t think that someone who isn&#039;t signed on to a modeling agency or at the very least makes some money from their modeling work should call themselves or identify themselves as a model. If a girl told you she takes her clothes off while dancing in her bedroom for her boyfriends each night, does that make her a stripper? Would you say &quot;Yeah, I&#039;m dating a stripper&quot; to your friends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying <img src='http://www.entropypua.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I guess that&#8217;s kind of what gets me confused. Just because a girl calls herself a model doesn&#8217;t make her one, yet men play into that label whether it be for self-validation or bragging rights with their friends or to be able to say &#8220;I date models&#8221; in their sales pitch for their new PU eBook. I&#8217;m not putting down amateur or hobbyist models, heck I am one. I just don&#8217;t think that someone who isn&#8217;t signed on to a modeling agency or at the very least makes some money from their modeling work should call themselves or identify themselves as a model. If a girl told you she takes her clothes off while dancing in her bedroom for her boyfriends each night, does that make her a stripper? Would you say &#8220;Yeah, I&#8217;m dating a stripper&#8221; to your friends?</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 09:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Oribi: I don&#039;t mean to give the impression that HB9 and HB10 = models. And professional models at that. Most &quot;models&quot; that we come across aren&#039;t actually professional models, the vast majority don&#039;t work with agencies. They do one off-side gig and call themselves a &quot;part-time model.&quot; 

As for club girls. I stand by my statements. Haha....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Oribi: I don&#8217;t mean to give the impression that HB9 and HB10 = models. And professional models at that. Most &#8220;models&#8221; that we come across aren&#8217;t actually professional models, the vast majority don&#8217;t work with agencies. They do one off-side gig and call themselves a &#8220;part-time model.&#8221; </p>
<p>As for club girls. I stand by my statements. Haha&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Oribi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oribi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 08:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a lot of what you say here, but I had to leave a comment when I heard you bunch models together into the &quot;fake club girls&quot; group, the girls who spray tan themselves and get fake nails and constantly cake on makeup.   

This just isn&#039;t true in so many cases. For example many, if not most,  modeling agencies prefer (and some even require) that their models keep their nails natural. Natural nails are easier to style for each shoot as needed. Same with the fake yellow spray tans you mention. Who&#039;s going to hire an orange model? And this isn&#039;t even just professional modeling. When I was inteviewing for a Jim Beam promo position I was explicitly told that I am not to come to the interview with fake tan on. 

Many models prefer not to wear too much makeup (if any at all) when they can to allow their skin to breathe and minimize wrinkles. I admit that this isn&#039;t true in ALL cases and I speak from personal experience only in my geographical area, where I&#039;ve dealt with plenty of professional and amateur models, photographers, and makeup artists. Seeing as before a decent agency will sign you on as it is you have to provide headshots with no makeup for them to consider you, models have to be pretty darn beautiful and/or unique looking without a mask of foundation, blush, and eyeshadow. 

So sure, they won&#039;t look exactly the same in your bed as they would in a photoshoot because they aren&#039;t wearing makeup. But they are likely to still look pretty darn good. 

Also, what&#039;s wrong with spending time at the gym? That isn&#039;t called being &quot;fake&quot;, that&#039;s called staying fit and healthy. 

99% of the girls who respond to craigslist ads for model calls are probably not models who are signed with a reputable modeling agency that provides them with work, so obviously you can&#039;t expect the best of the best, and I would not call them professional models. Anyone can show up to an open casting calls, how can all of them be called models? And no, this isn&#039;t being bitchy, I realize that there are some awesome, gorgeous freelance models out there, but they are few and far between. 

Well that was officially the longest comment I&#039;ve written this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of what you say here, but I had to leave a comment when I heard you bunch models together into the &#8220;fake club girls&#8221; group, the girls who spray tan themselves and get fake nails and constantly cake on makeup.   </p>
<p>This just isn&#8217;t true in so many cases. For example many, if not most,  modeling agencies prefer (and some even require) that their models keep their nails natural. Natural nails are easier to style for each shoot as needed. Same with the fake yellow spray tans you mention. Who&#8217;s going to hire an orange model? And this isn&#8217;t even just professional modeling. When I was inteviewing for a Jim Beam promo position I was explicitly told that I am not to come to the interview with fake tan on. </p>
<p>Many models prefer not to wear too much makeup (if any at all) when they can to allow their skin to breathe and minimize wrinkles. I admit that this isn&#8217;t true in ALL cases and I speak from personal experience only in my geographical area, where I&#8217;ve dealt with plenty of professional and amateur models, photographers, and makeup artists. Seeing as before a decent agency will sign you on as it is you have to provide headshots with no makeup for them to consider you, models have to be pretty darn beautiful and/or unique looking without a mask of foundation, blush, and eyeshadow. </p>
<p>So sure, they won&#8217;t look exactly the same in your bed as they would in a photoshoot because they aren&#8217;t wearing makeup. But they are likely to still look pretty darn good. </p>
<p>Also, what&#8217;s wrong with spending time at the gym? That isn&#8217;t called being &#8220;fake&#8221;, that&#8217;s called staying fit and healthy. </p>
<p>99% of the girls who respond to craigslist ads for model calls are probably not models who are signed with a reputable modeling agency that provides them with work, so obviously you can&#8217;t expect the best of the best, and I would not call them professional models. Anyone can show up to an open casting calls, how can all of them be called models? And no, this isn&#8217;t being bitchy, I realize that there are some awesome, gorgeous freelance models out there, but they are few and far between. </p>
<p>Well that was officially the longest comment I&#8217;ve written this week.</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 02:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Black Mamba: I never said they weren&#039;t worth the effort. I just want to dispel the mythological proportions that they&#039;re built up to in the community. Overall, picking a nice, charming 8 can be far more pleasant than dealing with a really bitchy and dumb 9.5. Take this video as a warning label. 9&#039;s and 10&#039;s don&#039;t fix all of guys problems. 

And on a side note, I hope Kobe dies in a grease fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Black Mamba: I never said they weren&#8217;t worth the effort. I just want to dispel the mythological proportions that they&#8217;re built up to in the community. Overall, picking a nice, charming 8 can be far more pleasant than dealing with a really bitchy and dumb 9.5. Take this video as a warning label. 9&#8217;s and 10&#8217;s don&#8217;t fix all of guys problems. </p>
<p>And on a side note, I hope Kobe dies in a grease fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Mamba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Mamba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 02:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All valid points you made, however banging a 9 or 10 is banging a 9 or 10, whether she is emotionally unstable, immature, rude or whatever.  At the end of the day we&#039;re talking about &quot;The Game&quot; right?  We&#039;re not talking about finding that nice sweet little 8 that is going to raise our babies.  We&#039;ve got the rest of our lives to find that girl.  I look at the community as a respond a shift in the dating power structure towards women and the fact that we&#039;ve been conditioned to think that they hold all the cards.   In fact, they hold half the cards like they have since the beginning of time.  We need them, and they us.  So I don&#039;t know if the appropriate approach is to say, &quot;watch out guys, beware the 9&#039;s and 10&#039;s&quot;  What&#039;s the fun in that?  It may be appropriate to say that you really are going to have your work cut out for you and you may determine for yourself in the end that it&#039;s not worth the effort.  But stating that it is usually not worth the effort is misleading and does a disservice to guys with intermediate to advanced game.  Because as a lot of attractive girls will tell you, the problem is not that their standards are insanely high, but rather that so many guys are socially inept (ie, have no &quot;game&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All valid points you made, however banging a 9 or 10 is banging a 9 or 10, whether she is emotionally unstable, immature, rude or whatever.  At the end of the day we&#8217;re talking about &#8220;The Game&#8221; right?  We&#8217;re not talking about finding that nice sweet little 8 that is going to raise our babies.  We&#8217;ve got the rest of our lives to find that girl.  I look at the community as a respond a shift in the dating power structure towards women and the fact that we&#8217;ve been conditioned to think that they hold all the cards.   In fact, they hold half the cards like they have since the beginning of time.  We need them, and they us.  So I don&#8217;t know if the appropriate approach is to say, &#8220;watch out guys, beware the 9&#8217;s and 10&#8217;s&#8221;  What&#8217;s the fun in that?  It may be appropriate to say that you really are going to have your work cut out for you and you may determine for yourself in the end that it&#8217;s not worth the effort.  But stating that it is usually not worth the effort is misleading and does a disservice to guys with intermediate to advanced game.  Because as a lot of attractive girls will tell you, the problem is not that their standards are insanely high, but rather that so many guys are socially inept (ie, have no &#8220;game&#8221;).</p>
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