Money stuff as always…

I would prefer an 8, that’s smart (she doesn’t have to be albert einstein intelligent), has a sense of humor (laughs at my jokes and is humorous herself), and confident (keeps the conversation going, etc). Also it’s cool to have things in common, especially hobbies and interests. Instead of some ditsy 9 that has thee IQ of a goldfish. Unless it’s just a one night stand thing.

Absolute money. Wow.

Yeah I think 9’s and 10’s who are club girls can be particularly dangerous. But exceptionally hot girls sometimes have unnatural amounts of confidence and don’t have the self-esteem issues a lot of girls have, which is so attractive.

They seem to stay on the extreme end of things, like extremely secure or insecure, or extremely stupid or extremely proactive. Maybe their beauty has really enabled or disabled them.

So 9’s and 10’s when they’re not a pain in the ass can be top notch, plus you get a lot of props for hitting it, and there’s nothing wrong about enjoying that. Good post Entropy.

Yeah nothing wrong with hitting a 9 or 10 but keep in mind they are well guarded and also sometimes they dont develop good social skills because they have everything handed to them all the time and guys will give them as much attention as they could want. Oh btw a lot of these HB9 and 10s are the worst lays. In vegas I had a 9 go go dancer from texas and she couldnt even give a decent bj. Kept using her teeth. Uh bad impression of texas girls so far.

entropy the videos are awesome and I thank you for posting them. In this said video, I find it remarkable that many girls who are 9’s and 10’s have the audacity to feel that their beauty warrants the world. It has been my experience that the 9’s and 10’s are the girls who can become totally smitten when you don’t give them the world. peace,lvoe and succe SS

As a guy who only has really had one 9 in his life (my ex-wife) I am a bit foreign to this overall but from my experiences it has not been very positive. These women just seem to be on a different planet and no matter what people tell you – you usually see them with good looking or rich guys. I dont care what guru tells you what – likes date likes and 9’s and 10’s typically are with the good looking and/or rich dudes. Its just a fact. To me the big “swing” group is the 8 crowd – they could go either way. I really like this video – great stuff once again Entropy and you tell it like it is…..

All valid points you made, however banging a 9 or 10 is banging a 9 or 10, whether she is emotionally unstable, immature, rude or whatever. At the end of the day we’re talking about “The Game” right? We’re not talking about finding that nice sweet little 8 that is going to raise our babies. We’ve got the rest of our lives to find that girl. I look at the community as a respond a shift in the dating power structure towards women and the fact that we’ve been conditioned to think that they hold all the cards. In fact, they hold half the cards like they have since the beginning of time. We need them, and they us. So I don’t know if the appropriate approach is to say, “watch out guys, beware the 9’s and 10’s” What’s the fun in that? It may be appropriate to say that you really are going to have your work cut out for you and you may determine for yourself in the end that it’s not worth the effort. But stating that it is usually not worth the effort is misleading and does a disservice to guys with intermediate to advanced game. Because as a lot of attractive girls will tell you, the problem is not that their standards are insanely high, but rather that so many guys are socially inept (ie, have no “game”).

@Black Mamba: I never said they weren’t worth the effort. I just want to dispel the mythological proportions that they’re built up to in the community. Overall, picking a nice, charming 8 can be far more pleasant than dealing with a really bitchy and dumb 9.5. Take this video as a warning label. 9’s and 10’s don’t fix all of guys problems.

And on a side note, I hope Kobe dies in a grease fire.

I agree with a lot of what you say here, but I had to leave a comment when I heard you bunch models together into the “fake club girls” group, the girls who spray tan themselves and get fake nails and constantly cake on makeup.

This just isn’t true in so many cases. For example many, if not most, modeling agencies prefer (and some even require) that their models keep their nails natural. Natural nails are easier to style for each shoot as needed. Same with the fake yellow spray tans you mention. Who’s going to hire an orange model? And this isn’t even just professional modeling. When I was inteviewing for a Jim Beam promo position I was explicitly told that I am not to come to the interview with fake tan on.

Many models prefer not to wear too much makeup (if any at all) when they can to allow their skin to breathe and minimize wrinkles. I admit that this isn’t true in ALL cases and I speak from personal experience only in my geographical area, where I’ve dealt with plenty of professional and amateur models, photographers, and makeup artists. Seeing as before a decent agency will sign you on as it is you have to provide headshots with no makeup for them to consider you, models have to be pretty darn beautiful and/or unique looking without a mask of foundation, blush, and eyeshadow.

So sure, they won’t look exactly the same in your bed as they would in a photoshoot because they aren’t wearing makeup. But they are likely to still look pretty darn good.

Also, what’s wrong with spending time at the gym? That isn’t called being “fake”, that’s called staying fit and healthy.

99% of the girls who respond to craigslist ads for model calls are probably not models who are signed with a reputable modeling agency that provides them with work, so obviously you can’t expect the best of the best, and I would not call them professional models. Anyone can show up to an open casting calls, how can all of them be called models? And no, this isn’t being bitchy, I realize that there are some awesome, gorgeous freelance models out there, but they are few and far between.

Well that was officially the longest comment I’ve written this week.

@Oribi: I don’t mean to give the impression that HB9 and HB10 = models. And professional models at that. Most “models” that we come across aren’t actually professional models, the vast majority don’t work with agencies. They do one off-side gig and call themselves a “part-time model.”

As for club girls. I stand by my statements. Haha….

Thanks for clarifying . I guess that’s kind of what gets me confused. Just because a girl calls herself a model doesn’t make her one, yet men play into that label whether it be for self-validation or bragging rights with their friends or to be able to say “I date models” in their sales pitch for their new PU eBook. I’m not putting down amateur or hobbyist models, heck I am one. I just don’t think that someone who isn’t signed on to a modeling agency or at the very least makes some money from their modeling work should call themselves or identify themselves as a model. If a girl told you she takes her clothes off while dancing in her bedroom for her boyfriends each night, does that make her a stripper? Would you say “Yeah, I’m dating a stripper” to your friends?

Hah. Welcome to the PUA community. You hit the nail on the head.

As someone who knows a little bit about this topic, I will point out for you the MOST accurate thing anyone has commented so far –

“These women just seem to be on a different planet…”"

The so-called PUA’s who don’t recognize that reveal they have no idea what they’re talking about.

So-called PUA’s sometimes say it’s just as easy to game a 10 as a 7.

That’s a false 1/2 truth. It’s often just as easy to APPROACH a 10 as a 7. And sometimes the 10 is MORE approachable & friendly. But GETTING w/them is a WHOLE other story.

So-called PUA’s sometimes say that if you game a fat chick it’ll help your confidence w/10’s down the way . That’s a false 1/200th truth. haha It always helps to boost your confidence, but when it comes to girls of a different galaxy, your game has to have some substance.

Most of the stuff you’re fed is intended to SELL you so-called PUA material. That’s why there’s the disconnect from reality.

BigDaddy777

OK…I’ve listened to your video… It REALLY is sour grapes from start to scratch.

I’ll deconstruct all your points…

1) When they wake up they look different. That’s true for EVERYBODY! haha But REALLY hot girls look REALLY hot in the morning. Even MORE so. Yeah, girls like that actually exist, dude. They’re tall & beautiful and nothing will stop that but age.

2) That some girls call themselves models and are not, is COMPLETELY irrelevant. We’re talking about HOT girls, not wannabee models. Even including such a besides-the-point arguement causes one to pause wrt your motive.

3) It is true that in general there’s a sense of entitlement & a history of pampering. Like I said, they live in a different galaxy. You just have to figure out a way to win her over DESPITE that.

4) That sororority girl is not even an EIGHT. Nose job for starters. And you called her an hb10?? Hmmm…

5) Miss S Carolina is prob the best example of what you MIGHT wind up with. A TRUE hottie that is truly unintelligent and seems UTTERLY clueless how she comes across.

But if you go to any Top 25 college campus – Umich, The Ivy’s, Stanford, some private ones, you will find TONS of SPECTACULARLY tall thin beautiful girls that worked VERY hard to get there and are probably smarter than you. haha

Bottom Line: No matter how you disguise it, this is just SOUR GRAPES, dude.

You can get these girls, but not using the nonesense the so-called PUA’s use. In fact, as low IQ as Miss SCarolina appears, I guarantee you she’s got enough intuitive wisdom from her dealings w/men to not buy ANY of the so-called PUA’s ‘game.’

And having gotten really nicetall thin beautiful girls who worked full time & went to college full time, they can be very family oriented and down-to-earth despite the VERY difficult mountain you must climb to win them over.

And the fact that almost everybody looks 4 or 5 times when you walk into a room w/her as your girl IS kind of cool. Ultimately, it’s cheap thrills, but don’t knock it until you tried it.

As usualy the so-called PUA’s have it exactly backwards. It’s not gaming fatties that help build your confidence to get 10’s. It’s successfully gaming 10’s that will ESTABLISH YOUR CONFIDENCE w/ ALL girls for the REST OF YOUR LIFE!

Whooooooooooo!!!

Big Daddy

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