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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s probably over-rated....like Mystery...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s probably over-rated&#8230;.like Mystery&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
		<link>http://www.entropypua.com/blog/giacomo-casanova/comment-page-1#comment-989</link>
		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He went to prison for basically being an athiest, and being a peasant who hung out with and &quot;corrupted&quot; nobility. 

As far as him being genuine. Like most womanizers, his manic pursuit of women was borne out of his own emotional issues and faults. His mother abandoned him when he was quite young and he never forgave her for it. He spent the rest of his life chasing after women&#039;s love (and receiving massive amounts of it), but in th end never being satisfied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He went to prison for basically being an athiest, and being a peasant who hung out with and &#8220;corrupted&#8221; nobility. </p>
<p>As far as him being genuine. Like most womanizers, his manic pursuit of women was borne out of his own emotional issues and faults. His mother abandoned him when he was quite young and he never forgave her for it. He spent the rest of his life chasing after women&#8217;s love (and receiving massive amounts of it), but in th end never being satisfied.</p>
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		<title>By: Cruise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cruise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everybody,

A question that puzzles me: was Casanova really as genuine as the legend tells?

&quot;He legitimately believed himself to fall in love with most of the 133 women he wrote about and probably more. He speaks of seduction the same way brilliant artists and musicians speak of their craft&quot;

Psychopats and serial killers also see their work as a piece of art.

I haven&#039;t read his memoires yet, but maybe someone can tell me how he got so rich at one moment. And did he really went to prison for no reason? When there is smoke, there is often fire. The government is always the bad guy is hero stories. Did he steal from his women for instance. Only the heart? Or also the money? What else then &quot;short pleasure&quot; did he give to women or to others in general? If I idolise someone, I would like to put things in perspective. From Don Guan for instance, another legend but a pure fictional one, it is known that he used disguise to seduce the maidens, promissing them to marry them, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everybody,</p>
<p>A question that puzzles me: was Casanova really as genuine as the legend tells?</p>
<p>&#8220;He legitimately believed himself to fall in love with most of the 133 women he wrote about and probably more. He speaks of seduction the same way brilliant artists and musicians speak of their craft&#8221;</p>
<p>Psychopats and serial killers also see their work as a piece of art.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read his memoires yet, but maybe someone can tell me how he got so rich at one moment. And did he really went to prison for no reason? When there is smoke, there is often fire. The government is always the bad guy is hero stories. Did he steal from his women for instance. Only the heart? Or also the money? What else then &#8220;short pleasure&#8221; did he give to women or to others in general? If I idolise someone, I would like to put things in perspective. From Don Guan for instance, another legend but a pure fictional one, it is known that he used disguise to seduce the maidens, promissing them to marry them, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Cruise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cruise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nicolas.
You wrote: &quot;I agree with the fact that if you let PU rule your world, you will end up alone&quot;

Hahaha! You are still so afraid of the red pil, of the vampire bite, ..

Casanova and Zan Perrion are masters in creating tragedy - drama based on  &quot;being a pirate, a traveller, a behomian, etc etc.&quot;
These guys make others (men and women) belief that they are special to them because they are &quot;to be rescued&quot;.

Even after Casanova&#039;s death, we can hear him &quot;play the victim&quot; through his memoires. And guys, wake up please: he who writes memoires KNOWS very well that it&#039;s not gonna be just a personal secret dairy. 

Their trademark:
&quot;Please help me. I am a slave to women. I will end up alone and miserable, etc etc.&quot;

Must work of course if you realise how many good and honest women are out there.

Once you understand how actors can be real, and not play a role, only then a true and natural seducer can finally arise.

I recommend the intervieuw of Christopher Reeves with Jimmy Carter and his anwer to the question &quot;why did you become an actor&quot;.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkcLRL9cBtk
It&#039;s so much the same as: &quot;that it wasn’t HIM seducing, that he was just a vehicle for love to express itself to these women. In fact, he took NO credit for his seductions, preferring to see it as letting himself succumb or “fall” into the emotion with each woman… whatever that means.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nicolas.<br />
You wrote: &#8220;I agree with the fact that if you let PU rule your world, you will end up alone&#8221;</p>
<p>Hahaha! You are still so afraid of the red pil, of the vampire bite, ..</p>
<p>Casanova and Zan Perrion are masters in creating tragedy &#8211; drama based on  &#8220;being a pirate, a traveller, a behomian, etc etc.&#8221;<br />
These guys make others (men and women) belief that they are special to them because they are &#8220;to be rescued&#8221;.</p>
<p>Even after Casanova&#8217;s death, we can hear him &#8220;play the victim&#8221; through his memoires. And guys, wake up please: he who writes memoires KNOWS very well that it&#8217;s not gonna be just a personal secret dairy. </p>
<p>Their trademark:<br />
&#8220;Please help me. I am a slave to women. I will end up alone and miserable, etc etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Must work of course if you realise how many good and honest women are out there.</p>
<p>Once you understand how actors can be real, and not play a role, only then a true and natural seducer can finally arise.</p>
<p>I recommend the intervieuw of Christopher Reeves with Jimmy Carter and his anwer to the question &#8220;why did you become an actor&#8221;.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkcLRL9cBtk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkcLRL9cBtk</a><br />
It&#8217;s so much the same as: &#8220;that it wasn’t HIM seducing, that he was just a vehicle for love to express itself to these women. In fact, he took NO credit for his seductions, preferring to see it as letting himself succumb or “fall” into the emotion with each woman… whatever that means.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Entropy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link to the biography I read is at the top of the article. Highly recommend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link to the biography I read is at the top of the article. Highly recommend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, what exactly did you read about him? 
Gonna read a book about him, need a recommendation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, what exactly did you read about him?<br />
Gonna read a book about him, need a recommendation</p>
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		<title>By: sandrs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quote Miss Mercedes : &quot;Casanova proves it: self-confidence and/or self-image does not equal self-esteem. As a matter of fact…they can very easily be extreme opposite qualities.&quot;

I think you see this more in women than in men 
eg: she can be a successful buisness woman and yet be prone to be low self esteem and be  in an abusive relationship and not with a guy that will treat her well , she herself doesnt believe  to be happy.

or for  a regular girl who is pretty  and worked hard to get where she is to have wehat she has , wants a cool guy and  maybe a healthy relationship.

Its his Rake side of Casanova which appears to what you mention in your quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quote Miss Mercedes : &#8220;Casanova proves it: self-confidence and/or self-image does not equal self-esteem. As a matter of fact…they can very easily be extreme opposite qualities.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you see this more in women than in men<br />
eg: she can be a successful buisness woman and yet be prone to be low self esteem and be  in an abusive relationship and not with a guy that will treat her well , she herself doesnt believe  to be happy.</p>
<p>or for  a regular girl who is pretty  and worked hard to get where she is to have wehat she has , wants a cool guy and  maybe a healthy relationship.</p>
<p>Its his Rake side of Casanova which appears to what you mention in your quote.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Mercedes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read and written so much about this in the last couple of days (starting with an article at www.gonesavage.com) but here again is another perfect example.  Casanova proves it:  self-confidence and/or self-image does not equal self-esteem.  As a matter of fact...they can very easily be extreme opposite qualities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read and written so much about this in the last couple of days (starting with an article at <a href="http://www.gonesavage.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gonesavage.com</a>) but here again is another perfect example.  Casanova proves it:  self-confidence and/or self-image does not equal self-esteem.  As a matter of fact&#8230;they can very easily be extreme opposite qualities.</p>
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		<title>By: chaosman</title>
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		<dc:creator>chaosman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Second, Casanova took the whole game beyond just sexual desire. Casanova loved the process and challenge of seduction. He would go after a attractive women that was with a jealous lover; nowadays we just call them AMOG&#039;s, and he would alleviate them from there grievances, and in return the female would show him gratitude, then casanova would seduce his target, and a short but exhilarating affair would take place between the two (Raising of BT) eventually escalating towards sex. Casanova would then Actively disqualify himself by saying that he was not worthy and tried to arrange for the women a marriage or date with another man, so he could smoothly divert himself from getting in to a potential relationship with his partner.

Third, Casanova enjoyed the process of seduction just as much as the result of it. He avoided easy targets and challenged himself by going after the affluent attractive females; just in case you didn&#039;t know, back then fat women where seen more as attractive. Casanova would never put himself in a situation that was too difficult because he found it unsuitable; this correlates to what mystery said about having competence over confidence and being able to analyze a situation within a given environment and increase the likelihood of success. In pickup it is essential to be a determinist and learn what works and what doesn&#039;t and have the foresight to know what to expect next. This is an artform that is pure science, which involves collecting data in the form of observable physical evidence of natural phenomena, analyze it, then construct a theory. That&#039;s the only way you&#039;ll master pickup is through trial and error.

Lastly, Casanova strived to become the alpha male. By displaying himself as witty, charming, confident, and even a helpful escort, casanova would put all the essential alpha male characteristics together before he would lay his targets. He never wanted to be seen as the needy AFC are predator looking around for his prey, stating &quot;my guiding principle has been never to direct my attack against novices or those whose prejudices were likely to prove an obstacle&quot; After SNL casanova would try and build comfort, as casanova valued intelligent women saying that &quot; After, all, a beautiful women without a mind of her own leaves her lover with no resource after he had physically enjoyed her charms.&quot; So he would try to build comfort after the lay to see if they where worth keeping as a future partner.

So what is the Essence of Casanova Crew? I believe we all most find that answer within ourself, on a deep and personal level, but for me, I would have to agree with Casanova:

“Cultivating whatever gave pleasure to my senses was always the chief business of my life; I never found any occupation more important. Feeling that I was born for the sex opposite of mine, I have always loved it and done all that I could to make myself loved by it.” -Giacomo Casanova</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Second, Casanova took the whole game beyond just sexual desire. Casanova loved the process and challenge of seduction. He would go after a attractive women that was with a jealous lover; nowadays we just call them AMOG&#8217;s, and he would alleviate them from there grievances, and in return the female would show him gratitude, then casanova would seduce his target, and a short but exhilarating affair would take place between the two (Raising of BT) eventually escalating towards sex. Casanova would then Actively disqualify himself by saying that he was not worthy and tried to arrange for the women a marriage or date with another man, so he could smoothly divert himself from getting in to a potential relationship with his partner.</p>
<p>Third, Casanova enjoyed the process of seduction just as much as the result of it. He avoided easy targets and challenged himself by going after the affluent attractive females; just in case you didn&#8217;t know, back then fat women where seen more as attractive. Casanova would never put himself in a situation that was too difficult because he found it unsuitable; this correlates to what mystery said about having competence over confidence and being able to analyze a situation within a given environment and increase the likelihood of success. In pickup it is essential to be a determinist and learn what works and what doesn&#8217;t and have the foresight to know what to expect next. This is an artform that is pure science, which involves collecting data in the form of observable physical evidence of natural phenomena, analyze it, then construct a theory. That&#8217;s the only way you&#8217;ll master pickup is through trial and error.</p>
<p>Lastly, Casanova strived to become the alpha male. By displaying himself as witty, charming, confident, and even a helpful escort, casanova would put all the essential alpha male characteristics together before he would lay his targets. He never wanted to be seen as the needy AFC are predator looking around for his prey, stating &#8220;my guiding principle has been never to direct my attack against novices or those whose prejudices were likely to prove an obstacle&#8221; After SNL casanova would try and build comfort, as casanova valued intelligent women saying that &#8221; After, all, a beautiful women without a mind of her own leaves her lover with no resource after he had physically enjoyed her charms.&#8221; So he would try to build comfort after the lay to see if they where worth keeping as a future partner.</p>
<p>So what is the Essence of Casanova Crew? I believe we all most find that answer within ourself, on a deep and personal level, but for me, I would have to agree with Casanova:</p>
<p>“Cultivating whatever gave pleasure to my senses was always the chief business of my life; I never found any occupation more important. Feeling that I was born for the sex opposite of mine, I have always loved it and done all that I could to make myself loved by it.” -Giacomo Casanova</p>
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		<title>By: chaosman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s an addendum to your post, originally posted by The Black Knight on casanova crew forums:

Many of the ways Casanova wrote in his memoir Story of My Life on seducing women are still found in the pickup lexicon of today&#039;s PUA community.

First, Casanova was a master of the art of verbal communication. Casanova stated in regards to sexual communication &quot;a man who makes known his love by words is a fool&quot; and continues on saying &quot;but without speech, the pleasure of love is diminished by at least two-thirds.&quot; Casanova believed that it was better to imply verbal sexual communication, rather then directly stating what it is you wanted. Now we know 300 years later, that it is still possible to get SNL by directly stating to a women what you want,now that we have the phycology behind BT(Buying Temperature), but nevertheless Casanova&#039;s method is still very much effective and applied today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s an addendum to your post, originally posted by The Black Knight on casanova crew forums:</p>
<p>Many of the ways Casanova wrote in his memoir Story of My Life on seducing women are still found in the pickup lexicon of today&#8217;s PUA community.</p>
<p>First, Casanova was a master of the art of verbal communication. Casanova stated in regards to sexual communication &#8220;a man who makes known his love by words is a fool&#8221; and continues on saying &#8220;but without speech, the pleasure of love is diminished by at least two-thirds.&#8221; Casanova believed that it was better to imply verbal sexual communication, rather then directly stating what it is you wanted. Now we know 300 years later, that it is still possible to get SNL by directly stating to a women what you want,now that we have the phycology behind BT(Buying Temperature), but nevertheless Casanova&#8217;s method is still very much effective and applied today.</p>
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