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		<title>Relating to Others Well</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In interactions, what&#8217;s less important is your experience and what&#8217;s more important is how well you can relate to my experience.
In general, talking about yourself is a poor way of relating to other people&#8217;s experiences unless there&#8217;s a clear emotional parallel (emphasis on EMOTIONAL, not situational). In the end, the emotional rapport is all that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In interactions, what&#8217;s less important is your experience and what&#8217;s more important is how well you can relate to my experience.</p>
<p>In general, talking about yourself is a poor way of relating to other people&#8217;s experiences unless there&#8217;s a clear emotional parallel (emphasis on EMOTIONAL, not situational). In the end, the emotional rapport is all that matters. Facts and situations are all replaceable.</p>
<p>Example:<br />
Person 1: &#8220;My dog died. I cried all day.&#8221;<br />
Person 2: &#8220;My dog died. I didn&#8217;t really care.&#8221;</p>
<p>= POOR WAY TO RELATE</p>
<p>Person 1: &#8220;My dog died. I cried all day.&#8221;<br />
Person 2: &#8220;My cat died last year. I didn&#8217;t leave the house for two days afterward. Losing a pet is awful.&#8221;</p>
<p>= BETTER WAY TO RELATE</p>
<p>Person 1: &#8220;My dog died. I cried all day.&#8221;<br />
Person 2: &#8220;That&#8217;s awful. *hug* I&#8217;m really sorry. Here, drinks on me&#8230; and we&#8217;ll toast to the best damn dog there&#8217;s ever been. May she rest in peace.&#8221;</p>
<p>= BEST WAY TO RELATE</p>
<p>Generally people who only relate to others by talking about themselves, are really just using situations as opportunities to seek validation and attention. How do I know this? I used to do this all the time and still have to stop myself quite a bit (especially when I&#8217;m drunk).</p>
<p>Also, when you&#8217;re constantly in this mode of only relating to people on a very surface level, your perception will be that everyone else just talks about themselves as well&#8230; why? Because they&#8217;re not talking about you! And you is the only thing you can relate to.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s something to try in-field&#8230; see how long you can hold a conversation with a girl without telling her a single thing about yourself. The results will surprise you (ironically, they usually end up thinking you&#8217;re the most understanding and insightful person they&#8217;ve ever met). </p>
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		<title>Three Conversation Tricks</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently redid the Conversation Demolition site, and on it, I talk about three conversation &#8220;tricks&#8221; to create attractive and dynamic conversations on the spot. The three tricks are:
- Who Cares More?
- Topic Dictator
- Laugh at Herself
Check it out here if you&#8217;re interested. Yes, I&#8217;m selling shit on that page, but what I&#8217;m selling is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently redid the Conversation Demolition site, and on it, I talk about three conversation &#8220;tricks&#8221; to create attractive and dynamic conversations on the spot. The three tricks are:</p>
<p>- Who Cares More?<br />
- Topic Dictator<br />
- Laugh at Herself</p>
<p><a href="http://www.conversationdemolition.com">Check it out here</a> if you&#8217;re interested. Yes, I&#8217;m selling shit on that page, but what I&#8217;m selling is absolutely awesome, and I give away tons of shit for free already, so suck it.</p>
<p>Back this weekend, hopefully with some good stories. Mark wants to fuck.</p>
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		<title>Night Game Model &#8212; Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In part one of my night game model, we covered some basics about night game (venues, types of girls, etc.) and what I do before I open a set (pre-selection). In part two, we&#8217;re going to cover opening and the first 30 seconds or so of conversation.
Opening
There are three different ways to open: direct, indirect [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" src="http://toronto.beforelastcall.com/_Global/img/gallery/Mar22-08-Circa_1614/1.jpg" alt="" width="207" height="311" />In <a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/night-game-model-part-1">part one</a> of my night game model, we covered some basics about night game (venues, types of girls, etc.) and what I do before I open a set (pre-selection). In part two, we&#8217;re going to cover opening and the first 30 seconds or so of conversation.</p>
<p><strong>Opening</strong></p>
<p>There are three different ways to open: direct, indirect and situational (which is another form of indirect usually). I&#8217;d say I tend to go situational 50% of the time, direct 40% of the time and indirect 10%.</p>
<p>When it&#8217;s best to go direct: When there&#8217;s a good logistical situation. For instance, if it&#8217;s a two or three-set, the girl looks like she&#8217;s looking for a guy (remember the people reading skills from part one), and her friends are distracted. Also, if there aren&#8217;t any guys around, although 90% of guys will back down and STFU if you have the balls to go direct in front of them. The only other situations I do direct is when I *REALLY* like a girl &#8212; i.e., she looks very intriguing to me as well as beautiful (really hot nerdy girls are a good example).</p>
<p>My direct is usually low-key because I&#8217;m a big guy and if I get too aggressive, I throw girls off. &#8220;Hi, I wanted to come meet you, I&#8217;m Mark&#8221; is probably at least half of my direct opens. Sinn&#8217;s &#8220;You guys look cool, are you friendly,&#8221; almost always hooks, etc. If you&#8217;re a smaller or shorter guy, I&#8217;d recommend coming in with more aggression and energy, something like, &#8220;You&#8217;re really sexy, I had to come meet you,&#8221; while kino&#8217;ing hard.<span id="more-899"></span></p>
<p>When I go situational: If you&#8217;re good at improvising lines based on the environment around you, situational is often the best way to go. It hooks just about every time and comes across as very genuine and spontaneous. I try to do it as much as possible.</p>
<p>Some stock situational lines I use: girl sitting by herself, I say, &#8220;Are you in time out?&#8221; If the bar is crowded, sometimes I bet the girl next to me a drink that I get served first. If some girls look really bored, I come over and say, &#8220;Look, this is a &#8216;fun-only&#8217; zone, we need to fix this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indirect: I save indirect openers (opinion openers, anything you&#8217;d find in the Routines Manual) for larger groups or mixed sets. &#8220;Drunk I Love You&#8217;s&#8221; opens groups of 4+ sufficiently 90% of the time. Google it if you don&#8217;t know what it is. It&#8217;s basically the new, &#8220;Who lies more?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Transitioning and Cold Reading</strong></p>
<p>Just as in the <a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/day-game-model-part-1">day game model</a>, I ALWAYS transition with a cold read.</p>
<p>If I went direct, I&#8217;ll transition with a basic cold read about the group. If I noticed something interesting about them before I opened (again, people-reading, pre-selecting&#8230; see part 1), I comment on that. These cold reads usually range from neutral to hit the nail on the head. When you hit the nail on the head with your cold read, combined with the direct, you have pretty much instant attraction. A few months ago, I opened this really tall brunette direct, and cold read her job perfectly my very next line (&#8221;You look like a closet nerd, I bet you&#8217;re an engineer or something.&#8221;) I was right and she FREAKED the fuck out. The attraction was immediately through the roof and the rest of the set was a matter of escalating.</p>
<p>If I don&#8217;t have anything to cold read on the specific set, I use one of a couple stock cold reads: &#8220;You don&#8217;t look like you&#8217;re from X,&#8221; &#8220;You guys look like you&#8217;ve been friends forever,&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>This will always get the conversation started down a general thread. As I&#8217;ll focus on later, you want every conversation to be about one of two things: you or her. I don&#8217;t really fuck around with routines, games or gimmicks. I want to know about her ASAP and want to share myself ASAP, so these cold-reads get that started pretty quickly. On top of that, they eliminate the annoying &#8220;interview question&#8221; habit and that percentage of the time when you cold read them right, you get a nice boost of attraction.</p>
<p>Note: Often, just by cold reading them correctly and going direct, I&#8217;ll already have more than enough attraction to get laid by this point. Let me say that again. By simply going direct, having great non-verbals, and cold reading well, I&#8217;ll often have enough attraction to get laid. The rest is a matter of escalating well. The biggest tip off for this is if she immediately starts asking YOU interview questions.</p>
<p>For instance, I have sets that go like this sometimes:</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Hi, excuse me, I thought you were cute and wanted to meet you. I&#8217;m Mark.&#8221;<br />
Her: &#8220;Oh wow, thank you.&#8221;<br />
Me: &#8220;I got a really cool vibe from you, you seem more artistic than most of the other girls here.&#8221;<br />
Her: &#8220;Oh&#8230; wow, I&#8217;m a photographer, how did you know that? That&#8217;s amazing.&#8221;<br />
Me: &#8220;I just had a feeling, that&#8217;s why I wanted to meet you.&#8221;<br />
Her: &#8220;Cool. So where are you from?&#8221;</p>
<p>BAM! As soon as that, &#8220;where are you from?&#8221; comes out, in my mind, the game&#8217;s over. Unless I majorly fuck up my escalation or comfort, she and I are going to get together.</p>
<p>A lot of guys fight against girls giving them interview questions, and this has never made sense to me. If a girl is asking you questions, she&#8217;s conveying nothing but interest. Why you would ever punish her for that is beyond me.</p>
<p>Cold reading off of indirect openers: Same concepts apply. The only difference is if we get into a conversation based on my opener, I&#8217;ll adjust my cold read for the conversation. For instance, let&#8217;s say I use, &#8220;Drunk, I love you&#8217;s:&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Hey guys, quick question, do drunk I love&#8217;s you count?&#8221;<br />
Them: &#8220;What are those?&#8221;<br />
Me: &#8220;See, my buddy Jack got drunk last night and texted this girl that he loved her. But he doesn&#8217;t remember doing it and now she thinks they&#8217;re a couple. What should he do?&#8221;<br />
Them: Blah, blah, blah (they usually say he can&#8217;t take it back.)<br />
Me: &#8220;Well, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve done some stupid shit when you&#8217;ve been drunk.&#8221;<br />
Her: &#8220;OMG, you have no idea.&#8221;<br />
Me: (Go into crazy drunk story)</p>
<p>This will get you about 30-60 seconds into the conversation. In part 3, I&#8217;m going to through how I cycle attraction and comfort. Again, similar to the <a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/day-game-model-part-1">day game model</a> where you cycle qualification and comfort, at night, I usually cycle teasing and comfort. We&#8217;ll talk about that next time.</p>
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		<title>How to Talk To Women</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most guys never learn properly how to talk to girls. So you&#8217;ve met that hot girl, you&#8217;ve broken the ice and now you&#8217;re talking. But it seems like it&#8217;s not going anywhere.
What to do?
Talking to girls is a skill in and of itself, which most guys are not good at. In fact, you need to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most guys never learn properly how to talk to girls. So you&#8217;ve met that hot girl, you&#8217;ve broken the ice and now you&#8217;re talking. But it seems like it&#8217;s not going anywhere.</p>
<p>What to do?</p>
<p>Talking to girls is a skill in and of itself, which most guys are not good at. In fact, you need to <a href="http://www.practicalpickup.com/">develop proper habits</a> to have enticing and interesting conversations with women that will attract them to you.</p>
<p>Although these methods are best learned by practicing <a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/coaching">in front of real women</a> and <a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/coaching">doing some drills</a>, here are some good concepts to always keep in mind.<span id="more-616"></span></p>
<p><strong>Avoid &#8220;interview&#8221; questions</strong> &#8211; Nothing makes a conversation duller than a barrage of, &#8220;Where are you from?&#8221; &#8220;What do you do for work?&#8221; &#8220;How old are you?&#8221; etc. If a woman wanted to talk about work, she&#8217;d be at work. Find something more interesting to talk about and don&#8217;t hit her with question after question, it gives the conversation an imposing feeling and makes her feel like she&#8217;s doing all of the effort.</p>
<p><strong>Share Yourself</strong> &#8211; Be able to open up about yourself and share what makes you unique. Talk about your hobbies, passions, interests, and ideas. Telling her that you play golf and are a White Sox fan isn&#8217;t enough. Really get into what you like to do. When you were younger, what did you want to be when you grew up? What do you want to be doing in 10 years? If you could travel to one country, where would it be? Get interesting and stay interested in her.</p>
<p><strong>Be Playful and Relax</strong> &#8211; Being intense and serious may be the polar opposite of being attractive when it comes to talking to women. Make jokes with her. Roleplay. Call her a brat or a dork. Don&#8217;t be afraid to be a bit silly and have fun. If you and her can&#8217;t have fun together, then it&#8217;s not going to go anywhere.</p>
<p><strong>Focus on how they FEEL</strong> &#8211; Men tend to focus on stats. Peyton Manning threw for this many yards and this many touchdowns. This kind of truck has this much horsepower. The S&amp;P500 dropped this percentage in this sector. Women focus on emotions. They talk about what a certain experience FELT like. Try to get more in touch with your feelings (I know, it sounds hokey), and communicate those feelings to her. It helps her connect and empathize with you.</p>
<p>Although all of these concepts will greatly increase the quality of conversations you have with women, you still need to <a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/coaching">get out and practice them</a>. It&#8217;s like playing the piano. You&#8217;ll never learn to play by reading about it. You have to actually get out there and do it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Day Game Model &#8211; Part 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is part three in my series of day game articles. For part one click here, and for part two click here.
Over the past two articles I&#8217;ve broken down my direct day game into a simple model and explained the various steps. Today I&#8217;m just going to recap the steps and post a sample conversation [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is part three in my series of day game articles. For part one click here, and for part two click here.</p>
<p>Over the past two articles I&#8217;ve broken down my direct day game into a simple model and explained the various steps. Today I&#8217;m just going to recap the steps and post a sample conversation that shows the flow of how the set should go.</p>
<p>Direct Opener &#8211; &#8220;Excuse me, I know this is like totally crazy but I thought you were cute and I wanted to meet you. I&#8217;m Doc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Transition With a Cold Read &#8211; &#8220;You know, you really have this west coast vibe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fluff Talk &#8211; Make small talk about where she&#8217;s from</p>
<p>Qualification Question &#8211; &#8220;What do you do when you&#8217;re not HERE?&#8221;</p>
<p>Grounding Story &#8211; A comfort story that DHVs you. Should be about what you do and WHY you do it.</p>
<p>Second Qualification Question* &#8211; &#8220;So like what do you really like to do, like what are you passionate about.&#8221;</p>
<p>Number Close &#8211; &#8220;I gotta get going but you seem cool. We should exchange numbers and maybe we&#8217;ll grab a coffee sometime or whatever.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the transcript of a set I recorded like six months ago that I found on my old computer.</p>
<p>PUA: Hey, I know this is random but I thought you were cute and wanted to come meet you. I&#8217;m Day Game PUA<br />
Girl: Hi, I&#8217;m Girl<br />
PUA: You know, you really have like this West Coast vibe<br />
Girl: Really? Why?<br />
PUA: Just like your style and the way you carry yourself. You don&#8217;t seem like you&#8217;re from here.<br />
Girl: Yeah I just moved here for school.<br />
PUA: Oh awesome. Where are you from?<br />
Girl: I grew up in New Jersey.<br />
PUA: Well I&#8217;m sorry to hear that&#8230;<br />
Girl: Hey! New Jersey isn&#8217;t bad.<br />
PUA: Yeah, My New Haircut just gives you guys a bad rep. What kind of art do you make? (She had black shit on hands from a grease pencil)<br />
Girl: I mostly paint but how did you know that?<br />
PUA: The grease pencil on your hands. I used to draw a lot.<br />
Girl: Yeah, I&#8217;m at Mass Art and since it&#8217;s my first year I have to sort of try everything. Are you in school?<br />
PUA: No. I work for a filmmaker.<br />
Girl: Oh, wow, that&#8217;s awesome. What do you like do for him?<br />
PUA: Mostly post production stuff. It&#8217;s actually really kinda like a dream job because I&#8217;ve just always loved movies so much. Like when I was a kid I&#8217;d draw pictures and tape them to my TV and make my mom and her girlfriend watch &#8220;my movies.&#8221;<br />
Girl: That&#8217;s cool.<br />
PUA: Yeah. Have you always been into art?<br />
Girl: Pretty much, for as long as I can remember I was painting anywhere I could.<br />
PUA: That&#8217;s awesome&#8230;<br />
Girl: Yeah&#8230;<br />
PUA: You know I actually gotta meet some friends soon but you seem cool. we should exchange numbers and if we like each other on the phone maybe we&#8217;ll hangout sometime.<br />
Girl: Sure.</p>
<p>If you look at the flow of the conversation it looks like just a friendly normal conversation but if you really pay attention to it you can see how it&#8217;s basically just cycles of qualification and comfort.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be posting another day game article in a few days.</p>
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		<title>Day Game Model &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to be part one in series of day game posts that I have no idea how many articles it&#8217;ll end up being. I&#8217;m going to talk about specific locations in future articles and may bring back some posts like the one I wrote on personal space or day game in a grocery store&#8230; No Salmon required.</p>
<p>I want to focus on my day game model with this first article because it&#8217;s the cornerstone of all of my day time interactions. When was learning day game and going out basically seven days a week to practice I kept a journal and everyday after I was done I would write down as much as I could remember about my interactions. I&#8217;ve talked about journals before, I think everyone should keep one because unlike field reports you&#8217;re just writing it for yourself and you can put your ego aside and talk about every interaction, good, or bad.</p>
<p>Captain Jack realized Strawberry Fields is a great routine for same night lays because he kept a journal. He basically looked at all the interactions with girls that he picked up and fucked that night and saw that in each one he was using Strawberry Fields.</p>
<p>My experience was similar. I looked back at all of my day game interactions that ended with a number that didn&#8217;t flake and looked for commonalties between them. I found that basically all of my successful interactions we when I opened direct, transitioned with a cold read, and then cycled qualification and comfort a few times.</p>
<p>I turned it into a system and model and gave it to a few friends to field test and they started having successful day game sets. Then I taught it to a few students and they started getting numbers, going on dates, and even laying the girls. I realized I had stumbled onto something.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve finally decided to write it up for my blog. I&#8217;ve taught it to enough guys of all different ages and backgrounds to know that it can basically work for anyone. Like everything in the community this is a framework and guideline, it&#8217;s not absolute. Bend the rules and personalize this, everyone&#8217;s style is a little different and no interaction with another person can be fully broken down into some model.</p>
<p>The Opener</p>
<p>Like every pickup you have to start with an opener. I really like direct during the day and my model is based around it. People have legitimate time constraints during the day and most of the time people just don&#8217;t have the time to talk to you for 20 minutes. Direct cuts though all the attraction stuff in one sentence and gives you more time to build comfort and qualify the girl.</p>
<p>Direct works off the girl&#8217;s first impression of you. So the better your nonverbals are, body language, eye contact, vocal tonality, and delivery, the better it&#8217;s going to go. You&#8217;re also going to want to be dressed well, be well groomed, and if you&#8217;re in good shape or good looking it&#8217;s also going to help you&#8230; However I&#8217;m 5&#8242;6&#8243;, weigh 130lbs, and look like I&#8217;m 17&#8230; I&#8217;m obviously not relying on my looks to get by.</p>
<p>Direct is high risk, high reward. If a girl for one reason or another decides she&#8217;s not interested in you the set is basically over. No plowing, no negging, leave politely and go open another set.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to go into the nuisances of direct game but Sinn sent out a really great email about direct and the mechanisms that drive it last week. I suggest you guys check it out if you want a complete guide to direct game for both day and night.</p>
<p>The specific opener that I use is just a standard direct opener&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;Excuse me, I know this is crazy and whatever but I thought you were cute and I wanted to meet you. I&#8217;m Doc&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quick, it&#8217;s polite, and it&#8217;s flattering. The &#8220;I know this is kinda crazy/random&#8221; part is actually pretty important. It basically says that you don&#8217;t do this everyday and acknowledges that this is a somewhat strange situation.</p>
<p>There are three main responses you&#8217;ll get to this&#8211;</p>
<p>1. She&#8217;ll be a little flattered, a little confused, and a little taken aback. She&#8217;ll basically say to you &#8220;ummmm&#8230; ok? I&#8217;m GIRL.&#8221; This is the most common reaction you&#8217;ll get</p>
<p>2. Boyfriend objection. This is the hardest blowout you should ever get. Either she actually has a boyfriend or she&#8217;s being polite and asking you to go away. I usually just say &#8220;He&#8217;s a lucky guy. It was nice meeting you.&#8221; I wrote a whole post about this a few months back which you can find here.</p>
<p>3. She&#8217;ll be very flattered and happy. She&#8217;ll ask you a lot of questions and basically if you don&#8217;t fuck up it&#8217;ll end well.</p>
<p>The Transition</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve opened her! But now what?</p>
<p>I like to follow up my opener with a cold read.</p>
<p>Cold reading for all intents and purposes is just guessing something about someone or telling them a truism about themselves. You can use them by making a statement but is actually just a fancy way of asking them a question.</p>
<p>The question &#8220;How do you like to be fucked?&#8221; Becomes &#8220;I bet you like to be bent over, fucked doggy, and probably slapped around a bit.&#8221;</p>
<p>An example of telling someone a truism about themselves is &#8220;You know you seem really reserved and shy but I bet when you&#8217;re around someone you trust you have this total wild side.&#8221; That&#8217;s basically true about anyone, everyone has multiple sides to their personality.</p>
<p>They also can act as qualification questions and they test for compliance. In the cold read I use during the day &#8220;You know, you have like this west coast vibe.&#8221; She can respond with &#8220;No, I&#8217;m from Philly.&#8221; or she can say &#8220;No, I&#8217;m actually from Philly but I&#8217;m here for nursing school at Boston University.&#8221;</p>
<p>She shows me more interest with the second response. She&#8217;s actively trying to create rapport by sharing more about herself.</p>
<p>Just to clarify it the cold read I follow up my direct opener with is &#8220;You know, you totally have this west coast vibe.&#8221; Obviously if you&#8217;re from the west coast use &#8220;east coast vibe&#8221; or &#8220;New York vibe.&#8221;</p>
<p>El Topo has written a lot about cold reading on blog, especially sexual cold reading. Check it out if you want to know more.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to follow up this post tomorrow with the rest of my model.</p>
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		<title>Connection: You can only share what you already know&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aha! And you thought I gave up on this series, &#8220;The Seven Immutable Laws of Pickup&#8221;. I would never do that&#8230; I just got lazy, caught up releasing an eBook, building three websites, coaching every weekend&#8230; you know, typical shit.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha! And you thought I gave up on this series, &#8220;The Seven Immutable Laws of Pickup&#8221;. I would never do that&#8230; I just got lazy, caught up releasing an eBook, building three websites, coaching every weekend&#8230; you know, typical shit.</p>
<p>Granted, I started this series back in June, in what was supposed to be a once-a-week series, but fuck it. I&#8217;m back with installment five, and I think this is a big one that I&#8217;ve never really seen touched upon elsewhere in the community.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/rejection-he-who-gets-rejected-gets-laid">I. The Law of Rejection: He Who Gets Rejected Gets Laid</a><br />
<a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/lifestyle-youre-only-as-attractive-as-your-lifestyle">II. The Law of Lifestyle: You&#8217;re Only As Attractive As Your Lifestyle</a><br />
<a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/aggression-push-the-limits-of-every-interaction">III. The Law of Aggression: Push Every Interaction to the Limits</a><br />
<a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/sub-communication-its-not-what-you-say-but-why-you-say-it">IV. The Law of Sub-Communication: It&#8217;s Not What You Say But WHY You Say It</a><br />
V. The Law of Connection: You Can Only Share What You Know<br />
<a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/relationships-setting-and-managing-expectations">VI. The Law of Relationships: Setting and Managing Expectations</a><br />
<a href="http://www.entropypua.com/blog/inertia-every-habit-requires-repetition">VII. The Law of Inertia: Every Habit Requires Repetition</a></strong></p>
<p>What I want to talk about today is what is generally referred to in the community as &#8220;comfort game.&#8221; I don&#8217;t like that term, because it ignores the depth of the communication that actually must go on to get a girl invested in the interaction. It makes it sound like all you have to do is give the girl a back rub and tell her you like puppies, then she&#8217;ll magically say, &#8220;Oh, what a nice guy, let me spread my legs!&#8221;</p>
<p>Comfort game is pretty useless unless the woman feels like she&#8217;s connecting to you on some deeper level. And to connect with you, you need to display an ability to empathize with her.</p>
<p>By empathize, I mean if she shares something personal, relate to the emotions she experiences and share something personal that triggers those same emotions within you.</p>
<p>This is an extreme example, but let&#8217;s say a girl talks about how her brother died of an overdose and it shattered her life for six months. I could then talk about how one of my best friends drowned when I was 19.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing&#8230; most guys &#8220;get&#8221; this and stop there. You build rapport: girl talks about A, you talk about A, girl talks about B, you talk about B.</p>
<p>But in the example above, simply talking about it isn&#8217;t enough, you want to CONNECT to her emotions. So what I would do is describe the experience of dealing with death. I&#8217;d talk about the grieving process, the immobilizing depression, how I used humor to cope, feeling like no one could relate to me no matter how much support I was offered, the complete inability to wrap your mind around something that is so absolute as death, etc.</p>
<p>BAM! She gets it, because she lived through the exact same experiences. And because she&#8217;s lived it, she knows YOU&#8217;VE lived it. You&#8217;re not just talking at each other, sharing facts, but now you have shared a life experience &#8212; almost as if you two lived it together.</p>
<p>This is building connection.</p>
<p>And building connection is reliant on one thing: you can&#8217;t share what you don&#8217;t know. In a nutshell, the more self-aware one is about one&#8217;s experiences, the more one will be relate to others about their experiences.</p>
<p>As men, we generally suck at being aware of our experiences.</p>
<p>I noticed when I first started coaching and tried to get guys to build more &#8220;comfort&#8221; I&#8217;d give them the usual lines of &#8220;You need to talk about yourself more, share yourself, Tell her about yourself,&#8221; etc. What these guys would do is start telling girls, &#8220;I&#8217;m from New Jersey. I like the Yankees. I like Kanye and Jay-Z.&#8221;</p>
<p>I got very frustrated and would tell them again, and so they&#8217;d go out and say, &#8220;I&#8217;m from Newark, New Jersey. I REALLY like the Yankees. Kanye and Jay-Z are the best.&#8221; What I soon realized was in their minds they WERE sharing themselves. They just weren&#8217;t as aware of their life, their motivations, their interests and especially THEIR EMOTIONS.</p>
<p>In these examples, even if the girl is from New York and into Jay-Z, she&#8217;s not going to feel that connected to you. Millions of guys out there are from New York and into Jay-Z. You have to dig deeper, find what makes you unique as an individual &#8212; WHY do you like Jay-Z? Well, when I was young, my older brother would drive me to school and play old Jay-Z albums. There you go, now we&#8217;re getting somewhere. Maybe you picked it up because you really looked up to your brother, maybe he was the biggest father figure in your life. If so, why is that? You need to ask yourself these questions and be willing to share the answers with girls.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not an easy task, but every guy needs to find what differentiates him from the other million guys in town. The good news is that you already ARE different than the other guys, but the hard part is taking a long hard look at yourself to see what&#8217;s so unique.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s when you do this, not only do you distinguish yourself in the girl&#8217;s eyes, but you&#8217;re able to build connection based on your life experiences. For instance, that girl who also likes Jay-Z, maybe she had an older brother who took her to a Jay-Z concert. You guys now have an experience to relate to on a much deeper, personal and emotional level.</p>
<p>This law is kind of the other side of the coin of the last law of pickup. Whereas with sub-communication, you&#8217;re constantly asking &#8220;Why?&#8221; in effort to understand the deeper causes of HER actions. Connection and self-awareness is a process of constantly asking &#8220;Why?&#8221; to understand the deeper causes of your actions.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because you can&#8217;t share what you don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Entropy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was out coaching last night and my student and I were talking about how different guys have different sticking points and how different guys are able to push themselves to different extents. And I kind of had this interesting realization.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was out coaching last night and my student and I were talking about how different guys have different sticking points and how different guys are able to push themselves to different extents. And I kind of had this interesting realization.</p>
<p>One of the major sticking points of guys who come into the community is that they lack basic social skills. They are simply unable to maintain a coherent conversation without being awkward.</p>
<p>There are also some people who are insanely driven and will open 10 sets a night, five nights a week for a year straight. They&#8217;ll try and memorize every routine and spout anything they read online to the exact word.</p>
<p>What always kind of baffled me was these are usually the same people. It just seemed like an overarching coincidence.</p>
<p>This may seem kind of obvious now, but I realized last night that the REASON these guys are able to open constantly, all day, every day is because they don&#8217;t understand social norms and therefore aren&#8217;t influenced by social norms.</p>
<p>The root of approach anxiety and the reason guys who already have good social skills have trouble pushing themselves is because they are too aware of the social norms and they&#8217;re aware that they have to break the social norms. Guys who lack social skills aren&#8217;t even aware of the social norms, therefore pushing themselves to approach 100 sets a week doesn&#8217;t even occur to them as difficult.</p>
<p>&#8230;and gosh darnit, people like me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>FR: Being a Pickup Artist is a DHV?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a funny story from last night that I wanted to share. 
The last few times we&#8217;ve gone out, my girlfriend has told me that she wants to see me pick up girls. Even the couple times where I kind of wanted to do it, I haven&#8217;t done anything. I can&#8217;t really explain it, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a funny story from last night that I wanted to share. </p>
<p>The last few times we&#8217;ve gone out, my girlfriend has told me that she wants to see me pick up girls. Even the couple times where I kind of wanted to do it, I haven&#8217;t done anything. I can&#8217;t really explain it, but when I&#8217;m with my girlfriend, I&#8217;m a completely different headspace than when I&#8217;m out sarging. I couldn&#8217;t even muster up the desire or interest to go open another girl. </p>
<p>Last night, a new friend of my girlfriend&#8217;s came out with us and we were all getting drunk. This girl was supposed to be a threesome candidate, but I vetoed her for not being hot enough. She was cool and fun regardless. They both started getting into wanting to see me &#8220;sarge&#8221; and whatnot. </p>
<p>We had gone to see a concert and bounced to a divey bar afterwards. The logistics here were like the worst imaginable. About fifty people and only five girls. </p>
<p>Immediately my girlfriend gets opened by two drunk frat-boy type guys. I don&#8217;t bother saving her or AMOG&#8217;ing the guys. I&#8217;m an extremely unjealous person, and honestly, if a guy was capable of taking my girlfriend off me, I&#8217;d want to meet this guy, because I can&#8217;t imagine the level of game that would take.  </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m sitting there by myself at the bar, and two girls come up next to me to order a drink. I overhear one say this: &#8220;Yeah, I like him, I guess. I don&#8217;t know. He just doesn&#8217;t do it for me. He&#8217;s too nice.&#8221; The other one replies, &#8220;That&#8217;s what you say about all of the guys. What is it exactly you want?&#8221;</p>
<p>Without really even thinking about it, I blurt out, &#8220;She wants him to take charge, to take control.&#8221;</p>
<p>They both stare at me intently, with an unspoken, &#8220;&#8230;and?&#8221;</p>
<p>So I go on: &#8220;You seem like an aggressive girl. You&#8217;re probably very upfront and direct with guys. You take what you want and I imagine rarely have trouble doing so. You&#8217;re never happy because these guys are too weak. They don&#8217;t challenge you. You want a guy who does what he wants with you, who won&#8217;t always defer to you. You want a guy who you&#8217;re not always sure if he&#8217;s going to call back the next day. And I bet you probably like to be batted around a bit in the sack too.&#8221;</p>
<p>These girls give me the deer-in-headlights stare for another couple seconds. I should note, this was NOT a contrived opener, and the cold-read was completely off-the-cuff. Over the last year, a lot of girls have asked for dating advice from me, and without fail it&#8217;s girls who are frustrated because they date nothing but pussies. I got a vibe from this girl, heard her complain and off I went. </p>
<p>The other thing that thing that should be noted, so you guys don&#8217;t copy this shit down word-for-word and go try it, is that it was said with complete conviction by some tipsy at a guy who obviously didn&#8217;t give two rats&#8217; asses if these girls hung around or not. Thus, they were intrigued. </p>
<p>Finally, the main girl let&#8217;s out a slow, &#8220;Oh my God&#8230; How do you know that?&#8221;</p>
<p>Continuing to press my luck, I say half-mockingly, &#8220;Because I&#8217;m a pickup artist.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A what?&#8221;<br />&#8220;Have you seen the movie &#8216;Hitch?&#8217;&#8221;<br />&#8220;Yeah.&#8221;<br />&#8220;That&#8217;s what I do. I&#8217;m Hitch.&#8221;<br />&#8220;NO FUCKING WAY.&#8221;</p>
<p>These two chicks flip the fuck out. They run and grab their other two friends and start barraging me with questions about my job. Here&#8217;s the crazy thing I&#8217;ve noticed after coaching for a year. Guys are always freaking out about girls &#8220;finding out&#8221; about the community or whatever. Without fail, girls LOVE MY JOB. They think it&#8217;s the goddamn coolest thing since the &#8220;Take On Me&#8221; music video. </p>
<p>I used to make up elaborate and boring answers to the, &#8220;What do you do?&#8221; question about internet marketing and website design. But when I just answer straight, &#8220;I teach guys how to get laid and how to get girlfriends,&#8221; it&#8217;s as big of a DHV as telling them I sing in a rock band or something. </p>
<p>I give these girls the inside scoop. The funny thing is, all of them said they had been opened by opinion openers before. But as this is going on, the initial girl definitely has an ulterior motive. She keeps interrupting, &#8220;Wait, where can I find a guy like that?&#8221; I non-chalantly tell her, &#8220;Oh, I know plenty.&#8221; She tells me she wants to meet them and hang out with them. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s an interesting sub-text going on here. I was being literal when I said I know plenty of them. The guys I hang out with here in Boston are all pretty damn good with women. But there&#8217;s also an implication that *I&#8217;M* one of them. Granted, I just read this girl&#8217;s entire sexual history like a book before she even said a word to me. She was laying it on thick with the kino. </p>
<p>It was about this time my girlfriend came back from outside with her friend. As she described it, &#8220;It was fucking ridiculous. Five girls in the entire bar and four of them are talking to you, one of them giving you her number and telling you to call her soon.&#8221; </p>
<p>I tried to introduce my girlfriend, but the main girl immediately cut her off and out of the conversation. I suppose you could say she AMOG&#8217;d my girlfriend. </p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;ll make a point that I didn&#8217;t do anything because this was not a big deal. My girlfriend isn&#8217;t a jealous girl at all and she actually asked to see this. In the end, she and I both know I&#8217;m going home with her, so whatever happens in this set is inconsequential. </p>
<p>So I start saying my goodbyes, but the first girl STILL won&#8217;t let me go. She brings up when she&#8217;s going to get to meet, &#8220;a guy like that.&#8221; I tell her soon. I totally realize what she&#8217;s implying, but whatever. My girlfriend apparently does too, as she, for the first time, becomes visibly peeved. The girl asks again, &#8220;When are you going to call me?&#8221; My girlfriend hits her limit, grabs me and says, &#8220;Maybe when we break up,&#8221; and drags me out. </p>
<p>We go home and have sex and are laying around a little buzzed ready to pass out. My phone rings. </p>
<p>&#8220;Five bucks says it&#8217;s that girl from the bar.&#8221;<br />&#8220;No fucking way. You talked to her for like 10 minutes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure enough, it was. Was kind of painful to pass up an SNL as this girl was pretty cute, but there was never a doubt in my mind that I was passing her up for my girlfriend. The trick now is integrating my girlfriend into those sets for cold approach threesomes. Hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Lessons learned:<br />- Being a pickup artist is a DHV. <br />- Cold-reading a girl&#8217;s entire sex life and being right will pretty much make her want to fuck you on the spot. <br />- An opener like that only works when you 100% own it and really don&#8217;t care what reaction you get. <br />- My girlfriend never wants to see me sarge in front of her again. Haha!</p>
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