Maybe the government will bail out the pickup industry…who knows?

Pick up Artists will never die.

What would replace it?

- MPM

Knowing The Seduction Community Is Flawed Is Pointless If You Don’t Act On It

Quote:

“Lots of guys are benefiting from knowing the scene is screwed up, but for others the concept doesn’t seem to have sunk in. Everyone throws around the idea that the scene is weird, and gives advice about what pitfalls to avoid, but sometimes the words are pretty empty.

For example, several times I’ve been reading through a forum thread and the posters were talking about how the scene was messed up and you should avoid the worst of it. But the guys writing this stuff were all textbook weird, trollish Seduction Community forum regulars. They were talking about how the Community was weird while simultaneously epitomizing everything that’s weird about it.”

There’s a meme. But its a couple years old already. Carlos Xuma. Heard of him? He’s a skinny guy in the San Fran area who teaches Martial Arts, etc, and is a big proponent of the ‘total lifestyle coaching’ not just getting laid.

Guys like him who’d actually investigated Buddhism, and Jungian Theory, (actually even David D was doing that: Meeting the Shadow, book) come back and look at pickup in a whole new light: you have cravings, and the solution is not to push away sex (celibacy), but to look on it without clinging or revulsion. If you like the sound of that, seriously check out Buddhism. That’s what its about. You don’t have to live in a Monastary and give up sex, just don’t be tormented by your sex drive.

Alot of people are getting alot of pussy, but the next step for those people is

a)scoring better quality chicks
b)realizing that sex is just like any other high, always slightly better in your mind that in real life
c)detaching from clinging to sexual gratification
d)translating that energy into something of actualy significance
e)women chase you even more because you have so much value, you transcend the notion of picking up chicks. They pick you up.

msn: sketchtrain@hotmail.com

I have nothing again the spiritual direction of the community and like a lot of it.

But when it comes down to it, guys are coming here because they’re sexually frustrated, not because they want evolved consciousness or to be enlightened.

Right now, the majority of the companies are not getting the results that have been promised for years, and people are getting pissed off.

So my thought is that 2009 is going to revolve less around, “what do they teach?” and more around, “does he get results?”

Call me crazy, but what I think is missing is a spiritually grounded win/win approach. That’s what is coming next. Will the big guys listen? We’ll see.

Yes, you could be right. I thought about that, but the problem I see is that spirituality these days is synonymous with the embracing of contradictions, mysticisms, and wishful thinking. Now, we do live in a culture where that sort of thing is acceptable, so maybe that’s what will happen.

Call me crazy, but what I think is missing is a spiritually grounded win/win approach. That’s what is coming next. Will the big guys listen? We’ll see.

Because of the saturation of ideas and offers, combined with the disgruntlement that you mentioned, it’s possible that the entire industry will just shrink. You may be left with local forums or blogs and some boutiques like kinowear or David Shade or whatever, but unless there’s some hook (it doesn’t even have to be one-stop-shopping like I mentioned earlier), guys may walk away from this altogether.